How to Backdoor Roth Schwab Tutorial [with Screenshots] | White Coat Investor (2024)

By T.J. Porter, WCI Contributor

A Backdoor Roth IRA is a great way to contribute to your Roth IRA even if you exceed the account’s income maximums. However, each broker makes the process slightly different. We've already written about how Vanguard account holders can contribute to their Backdoor Roth IRAs, and we've discussed how to do it with your Fidelity account, as well. But what about using a Backdoor Roth IRA if you deal with Schwab?

Today, you'll learn how.To get started, you’ll need to make sure you have both a traditional and a Roth IRA at Schwab. If you don't already have those accounts, that should only take a few minutes to accomplish. Then you’re ready to get started with the Backdoor Roth IRA process.

First, though, let's review what a Backdoor Roth IRA is and why you might need one.

The annual maximum that one person can contribute to a Roth IRA—which allows you to put post-tax money into an account that will then grow tax-free and allow the money in it to be withdrawn tax-free—is $6,500 for 2023 and $7,500 if you're 50 or older.

But once your Modified Adjusted Gross Income (MAGI) rises to $138,000-$153,000 for single filers and $218,000-$228,000 for those married filing jointly [2022], you begin to phase out of Roth IRA contributions. If you make more than $153,000 (single) and more than $228,000 (married) in 2022, the Roth IRA is off limits to you. That's when you can turn to the Backdoor Roth IRA process to indirectly contribute to your Roth IRA.

You do that by contributing to a traditional IRA (again, a maximum of $6,500 for 2023), and then a few days after that money hits your account, you transfer the money from the traditional IRA to the Roth IRA that you've already set up. This process will result in a pro-rated tax bill if you already have money in a traditional IRA, so if you want to perform the Backdoor Roth, you'll need to send that money elsewhere.

In late 2021 and early 2022, a potential bill was floated out of Congress that would have wiped out the ability for anybody to make a Backdoor Roth IRA. That provision never passed, though, and as such, the Backdoor Roth IRA lives on for those who make too much money to make regular Roth IRA contributions.

If you have a Schwab account, here's how to utilize the Backdoor Roth IRA process.

Step 1: Contribute to Your Schwab Traditional IRA

Log in to your account at Schwab. If you don’t have a traditional IRA at the broker, click the “Open An Account” button at the top of the page. Follow the prompts to set up your account and fund it.

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If you already have a traditional IRA at the broker, click “Transfers & Payments” instead.

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Then, choose how you’d like to transfer funds. An online transfer will be the quickest and easiest way to contribute for most people.

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Choose to transfer cash only, then select the account to transfer cash from, and select your IRA in the “To” field.

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An online transfer into the traditional IRA will take 1-2 business days if you’re moving money from an external bank account, but it will complete on the same day if you’re moving money from another Schwab account. Once you set up the transfer and the money lands in the traditional IRA account, it's time to move to the next step.

Step 2: Convert Your Schwab Traditional IRA to a Roth IRA

Once your money shows up in your traditional IRA, you’re ready to convert the balance to a Roth IRA. From your account page, follow the same steps to get to the transfer page.

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Select Online Transfers.

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This time, select your traditional IRA as your “From” account and your Roth IRA as your “To” account.

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After a warning about the tax implications, you’ll see a new page for converting your traditional IRA to Roth IRA. Select the “From” and “To” accounts again, and then choose a “Full Conversion.”

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You’ll see another window about tax withholding for IRA distributions. Select “No” for federal and state tax withholding if applicable.

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Click Submit on the final page and your conversion is complete!

Step 3: Choose Your Roth IRA Investments

Once your cash reaches your Roth IRA, it’s time to choose how to invest your money.

From your main account page, hover your mouse over “Trade” and select the type of securities you’d like to buy. For this example, we’ll choose “All-In-One Trade Ticket” as it can be used to purchase any type of security.

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Make sure you have your Roth IRA selected, choose the type of investment you’d like to buy under the “Strategy” dropdown, and enter the ticker symbol. In this example, we’ve chosen Schwab’s S&P 500 mutual fund.

Select “Buy,” enter the amount to invest, and select whether you want to reinvest dividends and/or capital gains.

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Make sure the details of the order are correct on the Verify Order page and click “Submit.” Once you see the confirmation page, you’re done!

Schwab makes the whole process quick and easy, especially if you already have money at the brokerage that you’d like to move into your Roth IRA.

If you’re still wondering about whether a Backdoor Roth IRA is worth it for you or you want more details on how they work, check out our in-depth tutorial on How to Do a Backdoor Roth IRA. But whether taking the time is worth it, know this: consistently implementing the Backdoor strategy could eventually make you a Roth IRA millionaire.

Are you using the Backdoor Roth IRA to diversify and minimize taxes? Do you do your Backdoor Roth IRA(s) at Schwab each year? What problems have you run into? Comment below!

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FAQs

What are the steps for backdoor Roth White Coat investor? ›

Step 1 – Contribute to traditional IRA ($7,000, $8,000 if 50+ for 2024). Step 2 – Invest the money in a money market fund. Step 3 – Move money from a Traditional IRA to a Roth IRA (i.e., a Roth conversion). Step 4 – Invest in your preferred investment (typically a stock, bond, or balanced index mutual fund).

What is the backdoor Roth IRA trick? ›

A backdoor Roth can be created by first contributing to a traditional IRA and then immediately converting it to a Roth IRA to avoid paying taxes on any earnings or having earnings that put you over the contribution limit.

How do I set up a backdoor Roth with Charles Schwab? ›

If you have a Schwab account, here's how to utilize the Backdoor Roth IRA process.
  1. Step 1: Contribute to Your Schwab Traditional IRA.
  2. Step 2: Convert Your Schwab Traditional IRA to a Roth IRA.
  3. Step 3: Choose Your Roth IRA Investments.
Jan 10, 2023

Is the backdoor Roth going away in 2024? ›

Yes. Backdoor Roth IRAs are still allowed in 2024. However, there has been talk of eliminating the backdoor Roth in recent years. And the future is, of course, difficult to predict.

What paperwork is needed for backdoor Roth IRA? ›

The tax requirements for a backdoor Roth IRA involve reporting nondeductible contributions to a traditional IRA and subsequent conversions to a Roth IRA on Form 8606. Failing to do so, could cost you more money in IRS penalties and additional taxes on the converted amount.

What is a backdoor Roth conversion for dummies? ›

How does a backdoor Roth IRA work? To make a backdoor Roth IRA conversion, first you will make a nondeductible contribution to a traditional IRA. Unlike a Roth IRA, the traditional IRA has no income ceiling for nondeductible contributions. Then you will convert the nondeductible IRA contribution to your Roth IRA.

What is the downside of Backdoor Roth? ›

Cons: All or part of a backdoor Roth IRA conversion could be a taxable event. You may have to pay federal, state, and local taxes on converted earnings and deductible contributions. Conversions could kick you into a higher tax bracket for the year.

Is backdoor Roth worth the hassle? ›

If your federal income tax bracket is 32% or higher, doing a Backdoor Roth IRA is a terrible, terrible idea. It is highly unlikely you will be making more money, and thereby being in a higher tax bracket in retirement! It's nice to have tax-free money you can withdraw from in retirement.

What is the 5 year rule for backdoor Roth IRAs? ›

Accessed Apr 8, 2022. You'll need the money in five years or less. Money converted from an IRA to a Roth IRA falls under a Roth five-year rule: If you don't wait five years to withdraw it, you could owe taxes and a 10% penalty. The withdrawal from your IRA will push you into a higher income tax bracket.

What income is too high for Roth IRA? ›

Roth IRA income limits 2024

If your MAGI is higher than $161,000 for single filers or higher than $240,000 for those married filing jointly, you are not eligible to contribute. Less than $146,000. $7,000 ($8,000 if 50 or older). $146,000 or more, but less than $161,000.

What is the income limit for a backdoor Roth IRA? ›

Understanding Backdoor Roth IRAs

The limits are as follows: For 2023: Between $138,000 and $153,000 for single filers and between $218,000 and $228,000 for joint filers. For 2024: Between $146,000 and $161,000 for single filers and between $230,000 and $240,000 for married couples filing jointly4.

How do I backdoor Roth every year? ›

Below are the three steps to do a backdoor Roth IRA strategy.
  1. Step One: Contribute to a Traditional IRA.
  2. Step Two: Move your pre-tax IRAs to your current employer plan.
  3. Step Three: Convert your traditional IRA to a Roth IRA.

Are backdoor Roth conversions going away? ›

While it doesn't look like they'll be eliminated in 2024, the future of the Backdoor Roth IRA remains a target of proposed legislation. Some legislative efforts have already been taken to limit Roth IRAs or to change tax brackets and RMDs in the future.

Do you get taxed twice on Backdoor Roth? ›

Ideally, a nondeductible (after-tax) traditional IRA that gets converted into a Roth IRA would not be subject to any taxes, so the funds would not be taxed twice. To be clear, no converted funds would get double-taxed, but some circ*mstances can result in a taxable transaction.

What is the holding period for backdoor Roth? ›

If you're under age 59½ and you have one Roth IRA that holds proceeds from multiple conversions, you're required to keep track of the 5-year holding period for each conversion separately.

What are the steps for a Roth conversion? ›

How to do a Roth IRA conversion
  1. Open a Roth IRA account. You'll need to open a Roth IRA account at a financial institution. ...
  2. Contact your plan administrators. Reach out to both the new and old financial institutions to see what they need to make the conversion to the new account. ...
  3. Submit the required paperwork.
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What is the backdoor path for a Roth IRA? ›

A backdoor Roth IRA is a conversion that allows high earners to open a Roth IRA despite IRS-imposed income limits. Basically, you put money you've already paid taxes on in a traditional IRA, then convert your contributed money into a Roth IRA, and you're done.

What if I didn't file form 8606? ›

Failure to file Form 8606 for a distribution could result in the IRA owner (or beneficiary) paying income tax and the additional 10 percent early distribution penalty tax on amounts that should be tax-free.

What is the pro rata rule for backdoor Roth? ›

The Pro-Rata rule applies if your Traditional IRA contains both pre-tax and after-tax contributions. The Pro-Rata Rule is used to determine the ratio that should be applied in determining how much of the conversion is pre-tax vs after tax. You are not able to choose only the after-tax portion when doing a conversion.

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