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  • 27th February 2023,01:12 PM #1

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    Student Appdata folder - redirect or not?

    Currently have students using mandatory profiles, with only documents, etc being redirected.

    Updated to the latest version of Unity and they now store details in the AppData folder, which get created and deleted at logon/logoff which is causing a fair few issues.

    I already have the staff Appdata folder redirected, so I am wondering if there is anything to stop me from doing the same for a small set of students who need to use unity.

    What are peoples thoughts of Student Appdata folders being redirected?

    Cheers

  • 27th February 2023,02:10 PM #2

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    Never* redirect AppData. We moved to requiring seating plans so that apps that had per-computer configuration didn't interrupt lessons.

    (I've not looked at FXLogic, maybe that would change my mind?)

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  • 27th February 2023,03:25 PM #3

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    Adobe CC Premiere Rush seems to store chunks of important stuff in the AppData. The whole suite goes berserk if you redirect it though!

    Generally, as above - don’t redirect.

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  • 27th February 2023,06:35 PM #4

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  • 27th February 2023,09:05 PM #5

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    Thanks for replies

    Just checked and turned out I removed app data redirect for staff when I set them to local profiles.

    Was a bit confused when I went to check and the settings wasn’t applied, so I checked my notes and I changed it over 18 months ago.

    Students that that use unity are taught in two different rooms over the two week timetable.

    Will change those students to local profiles and see how it goes.

  • 28th February 2023,08:04 AM #6

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    Plenty of subjects have constraints on where they can teach what due to technical/practical/equipment limitations.

    Be wary of non-standard, depreciated solutions that people come to rely upon.

  • 28th February 2023,12:10 PM #7

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    I'd love to used to run full roaming profiles in the old days and the network just worked perfectly for years on end.

    Sadly redirecting appdata turns into a mess as there are such badly written programs that they try and store data any old where.

  • 28th February 2023,09:27 PM #8

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  • 1st March 2023,09:38 AM #9

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    Roaming appdata is awful.. We are still using roaming profiles.. Looking to move away from this next half term.

    Causes some very long login times for some users with larger profiles, especially on a new PC they haven't used before.

    Looking to move them onto Local profiles, with local documents redirected to their H:\ folder & leave appdata residing on the local profile

  • 1st March 2023,10:32 AM #10

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    We use Mandatory profiles with redirected appdata, not had any severe problems with it, the odd corrupted appdata but that is easy to resolve.

    I am always looking to streamline our processes, is everyone just using Local profiles now, how do you manage with disk space?

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    Student Appdata folder - redirect or not? (181) Originally Posted by Disease

    We use Mandatory profiles with redirected appdata, not had any severe problems with it, the odd corrupted appdata but that is easy to resolve.

    I am always looking to streamline our processes, is everyone just using Local profiles now, how do you manage with disk space?

    There is a GPO which can remove local profiles after a certain amount of time not being logged in. Computer Config > Admin Templates > System > User Profiles > Delete User profiles older than a specified number of days on system restart.

    We will be setting this to 30 days, so any user profile which has not been logged into after 30 days will be removed.

    We will only be using this for staff accounts - students use a mandatory profile.

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  • 1st March 2023,11:27 AM #12

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    We have roaming profiles with appdata redirected to their home drives.

    Not experienced any issues with this from the days of XP up to 10.

    The biggest roaming profile size I can see is 6.9MB. The smallest is 1.3MB

    You can omit a lot of the stuff from roaming in user profiles via GPO in order to keep the size small: User Config > Administrative Templates > System > User Profiles > Exclude directories in roaming profile

  • 1st March 2023,12:08 PM #13

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    The only size hog we have noticed with roaming AppData is the Teams folder which is consistently 500mb+.
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    Student Appdata folder - redirect or not? (231) Originally Posted by Disease

    The only size hog we have noticed with roaming AppData is the Teams folder which is consistently 500mb+.

    We stopped installing Teams for this very reason. We just tell everyone to use the web version. It does everything anyway.
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    I use roaming profiles with redirected appdata. There can be some pretty large folders in there which cause slow login times. Local profiles just won't work here though so I am currently going through and finding all of the worst offending folders and trialling a GPO that excludes them from syncing in a roaming profile.
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    FAQs

    Should I redirect appdata? ›

    Don't redirect appdata. It's one of the worst and oldest fail practices in the book. Simply manage your profile appropriately. File or Container tech is fine.

    Is Folder Redirection a good idea? ›

    We use folder redirection and UEM because people roam, if your users are never sat at the same desk or device then this is pretty much a must. Even if they don't, FR will help with backup of their data and allows for them to move or use alternative devices if needs be. The best part is backing documents up.

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    Folder Redirection enables users and administrators to redirect the path of a known folder to a new location, manually or by using Group Policy. The new location can be a folder on the local computer or a directory on a file share.

    What is the best practice for Folder Redirection? ›

    For optimal performance of the Folder Redirection feature, it is strongly recommended that you create only the root share on the server, and then let the system create the folders for each user.

    Is it safe to move the AppData folder? ›

    That's because any deletion in this folder can make the system unstable and functions missing. So, it is not recommended to move the folder location, if you stick to that, backup is what you should do.

    Should you copy the AppData folder? ›

    Because most applications only store their configuration settings in this folder, and not the files you create, it's often not necessary to back it up.

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    A redirect is a way to send users and search engines to a different URL from the one they requested. This is commonly used when a webpage is moved to a new address, ensuring that visitors and search engine crawlers are automatically taken to the correct page.

    Does Folder Redirection enable offline files? ›

    After you create a GPO for Folder Redirection settings, follow these steps to edit the Group Policy settings that enable and configure Folder Redirection. By default, the Offline Files feature is enabled for redirected folders on Windows client computers, and disabled on Windows Server computers.

    What is the difference between Folder Redirection and home folder? ›

    A home folder is a shared drive designation that maps at logon and enables the user to store personal files. On the other hand, folder redirection is an automated way to redirect specific folder contents.

    When would you use a redirect? ›

    URL redirects help make the move from one domain or subdomain name to another simple and easy. As we've mentioned previously, this delivers value for users to find the content they're looking for, or have bookmarked, in your new domain without having to hunt around for it or landing on a 404 page.

    What are the advantages of redirection? ›

    With proper redirection, you can transfer the SEO value of the old URL to the new one. This helps maintain your search engine rankings and organic traffic. Imagine clicking on a bookmark or search result only to land on a 404 error page.

    Why is redirection good? ›

    When done successfully, respectful redirection can remove the need for further intervention. Talking to students in a positive, calm manner while giving specific feedback gives them a way to get back on task without needing more information.

    What are the advantages of using Folder Redirection in a Group Policy? ›

    Some of the advantages of folder redirection are:
    • user documents are available from any computer.
    • helps to reduce logon and logoff times (data is stored outside the user profile)
    • reduces the risk of profile corruption.
    • increased security and availability of user data (safe storage and recovery on network location)

    When should you use a redirection technique? ›

    Ideally, teaching redirection techniques should occur when a child is regulated. Trying to guide them when they're dysregulated can be a challenge for you and your child. Also, the learning process should be the focus of these learnings rather than the desired outcomes.

    How to tell if Folder Redirection is enabled? ›

    How to verify that folder redirection works
    1. In a session, navigate to a folder you directed, right-click the folder, and then select Properties.
    2. In the properties window, navigate to the Shortcut tab and then check the Target field. If the field displays a redirected path, folder redirection works.
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    Is it safe to delete Roaming AppData? ›

    Deleting these folders can not only possibly break Windows, but they will also indeed remove most of your program settings. Since these folders are protected, you'd have to boot into safe mode, then delete them and immediately regret it.

    Should I install programs in AppData? ›

    The biggest downside is that the user needs administrative privileges, which isn't always required by the program. I'd advise against installing to AppData unless you have really good reason to do so. Program Files is where the user will expect it, and the permissions are set up like that as well.

    How do I optimize AppData? ›

    Access Disk Cleanup by typing "Disk Cleanup" in the Start menu. Select the drive containing the AppData folder and let the utility analyze and suggest files to delete. Ensure that the "Temporary files" option is checked, and proceed with the cleanup.

    Is the AppData folder important? ›

    The files in the AppData folder are important for the apps that are installed on your PC. If you delete these files then your apps might not work properly, and you will also lose user information and all other saved data.

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