There's Always Money In The Banana Stand - Retire Before Dad (2024)

There's Always Money In The Banana Stand - Retire Before Dad (1)Arrested Development was an early 2000’sTV comedy loved by its fans. Despite critical acclaim, it failed to gain traction and the show was canceled after three seasons.

Years later it was revamped as a Netflix series thanks to the enduring hilarity of the first three seasonsThere's Always Money In The Banana Stand - Retire Before Dad (2)and its grassroots fan base. Challenged with cast schedules, the fourth season on Netflix was not a huge success.

Mrs. RBD and I barely made it through the whole fourth season an never tried the fifth.

I didn’t watch the show when it originally aired, but Mrs. RBD turned me on to it while we were datingand webinge-watched the three seasons together. It’s an absurd but excellent piece of comedic work.

One of the main plot locations of the show is the Bluth Family Frozen Banana Stand. The banana stand was started by George Sr., the patriarch and founder of the family real estate development business.

When the family business was struggling, George Sr. assured his son Michael, “there’s always money in the banana stand”. The phrase invoked security, as in the banana stand was a stable cash flow generator and could help carry the business through hard times.

But George Michael (son of Michael) realizes the banana stand is actually losing money and wants to burn it down. Michael, not wanting to micro-manage his son (like his father did), decides to help George Michael burn the stand down to spite his own Dad’s meddling. He also thought his brother G.O.B.had sent in the insurance check.

He didn’t.

Later we learn that George Sr. was not talking about cash flow when he said there’s always money in the banana stand, he meant literally, there’s always money in the banana stand! As the stand burned, so did $250,000 of cash hidden in the walls.

Talking Big Ideas While on Vacation

Even with three kids constantly nagging us and fighting off sunblock application, I know of few better ways to relax with the family than a beach vacation.

Beach vacations are so great in fact, it’s hard not to be depressed when you return home and head back to the office. So I don’t return from vacation depressed, I like to talk about big ideas like goals and long-term plans with my wife during our week away.

Long car drives are a great opportunity to have these conversations. One topic that came up on our drive was our condo rental. I’ve owned the condo since 2006. For the last five years, it’s been a cash flow positive real estate asset for us. I’m strongly considering selling it as I expect our excellent tenants to be moving out soon.

I wrote about all the pros and cons of selling in the post Should I Sell my Condo Rental?

When I penned that blog post, I was about 70% in the yes column that we’d sell the condo when the tenants move out.

After speaking with my wife during our vacation, we’re now probably closer to 50/50.

Why?

Because Mrs. RBD was more positive on the condo than I thought. My thinking was we’d take the proceeds of selling the condo and make some improvements to our primary residence. Mrs. RBDlikes that idea too. Then we’d keep a stash of cash in a savings account and take our time deciding what to do with it. $100,000 of cash in the bank can do a lot of things. Most of all, it would provide us flexibility.

Flexibility to create more free time in our lives. Flexibility to travel. Flexibility to try new things. But shemade some insightful comments that have me second guessing.

There’s Always Equity in our Banana Stand

Mrs. RBD made some points that, frankly, I didn’t think she thought much about. For example, she said something to the effect of, “well, many wealthy people tend to own more than one property.”That’s probably true.

The longer we hold onto the condo, the more equity we’ll build through having a tenant pay down the mortgage, and the more value is created through appreciation. She also pointed out that the condotakes up very little of my time. And if we ever really needed the money for some reason, we could always sell it and pull out the equity.

There’s always money in the banana stand.

We have some security blankets built into our financial lives, so it’s hard to see a scenario where we’ll need to tap the banana stand.There's Always Money In The Banana Stand - Retire Before Dad (3) But you never know. If something expensive happens, we could always ask the tenants to move out and sell.

To date, appreciation has been nil. I bought the condo after the real estate bubble popped (late 2006), but before the mega financial crisis. Theprice seemed favorable at the time. The same unit would have sold for $30,000-$40,000 more six months earlier. But had I waited for another year to buy, I probably could have gotten a similar unit for $30,000-40,000 less than I paid.

Prices have since recovered from that mess, but not excessively so for old condos in my area. With an updated kitchen, I believe we could sell the unit for $10,000-$20,000 more than I paid for it.

The real windfall from selling it is the equity tied up in the property.

The return on investment (ROI) on the equity in the condo is quite poor. So the chunk of cash is probably better suited to generate cash flow elsewhere.

But just how much equity is in the condo?

That’s actually not an easy question to answer. The US tax code is quite complicated for selling assets that were used as investments. Cost basis and depreciation recapture are two tax code animals I did not want to tame.

So to get a better picture of the equity in the condo, I hired a CPA to do a sale analysis. The basic answer I wanted to know was, if we sellthe condo this year, how much money would we walk away with?

For $500, it was well worth the investment. I’m now armed with the information I need to make the best possible decision.

As I expected, if we sell the condo, we’ll depart the closing with a sizable chunk of cash. At least $100,000, depending on the sale price, (of course), and how much, if any, we put into upgrading it before the sale. Upgrades could include a full-blown kitchen and/or bath renovation costing anywhere from $10,000-$25,000. We’ll need to consult an agent on whether that makes sense or not.

The CPA pointed out some important points. Namely, how to calculate the cost basis by accounting for improvements that were made before I started renting it. Also, it turns out depreciation recapture won’t have any impact unless it sells for well above what I think it’s worth.

The analysis provides a lot for me to think about. I’m mostly happy with the outcome, which confirms what I believed. That is, if we sell the condo, we’ll have a lot more cash on our hands, and the taxman won’t get to put his grubby hands on too much of it.

Selling would bring us peace of mind, simpler financial lives (particularly at tax time), and less overall responsibility. Though I’d miss the income it generates and the monthly increase in my net worth.

Conclusion

We have a sufficient insurance policy on our banana stand. If it burns down, we won’t be out $250,000.

When we do sell, the $100,000 + in cash could be used a number of different ways. We could improve our primary residence, invest it, or keep it for a rainy day.

UPDATE: We sold our “banana stand” in 2019. Here’s why.

One of my goals for 2016was to develop a plan for a “near-term,pre-retirement lifestyle adjustment”. I have not completed this task yet, but I think a lot about it.

The idea is that once our kids are all in elementary school (about four years from now), perhaps we could make a major adjustment to our lifestyle, where maybe I can ditch my 9-5 and pursue other work that is less time consuming.

And maybe Mrs. RBD canbegin collecting an income through freelancing in her previous field of work.

The combination of our investment income, part-time income from both of us, a decreased cost of living, and lower taxes, could add up to a level where we wouldn’t need a job.

Selling the condo would immediately decrease my passive investment income, but $100,000 would give us abuffer we’d need to transition into a new lifestyle.

As it is, the ROI on the condo only yields about 1%. That number could easily be doubled through dividend investing, or possibly via interest on cash in the near-to-mid term. Or we could simply use it as a buffer to supplement our income as we build an alternate lifestyle.

Over time, our banana stand has shifted from a problem child (a la G.O.B.) to a reliable asset helping us pursue retirement.

Which brings to question, if it’s such a positive asset today, why not hold on for longer?

Photo credit: RBD – picture with my phone watching the DVD.

There's Always Money In The Banana Stand - Retire Before Dad (4)

Craig Stephens

Craig is a former IT professional who left his 19-year career to be a full-time finance writer. A DIY investor since 1995, he started Retire Before Dad in 2013 as a creative outlet to share his investment portfolios. Craig studied Finance at Michigan State University and lives in Northern Virginia with his wife and three children. Read more.

Favorite tools and investment services right now:

Sure Dividend — A reliable stock newsletter for DIY retirement investors. (review)

Fundrise — Simple real estate and venture capital investing for as little as $10. (review)

NewRetirement — Spreadsheets are insufficient. Get serious about planning for retirement. (review)

M1 Finance — A top online broker for long-term investors and dividend reinvestment. (review)

There's Always Money In The Banana Stand - Retire Before Dad (2024)

FAQs

What does "there's always money in the banana stand" mean? ›

In arrested development, George Bluth tells Michel Bluth that there is always money in the banana stand they run. When he says "There's always money in the banana stand", Michel interprets this as meaning that the Banana stand will always make money.

What is the saying on the banana stand? ›

George Sr. : There's always money in the banana stand!

What happened to the money in the banana stand? ›

Later we learn that George Sr. was not talking about cash flow when he said there's always money in the banana stand, he meant literally, there's always money in the banana stand! As the stand burned, so did $250,000 of cash hidden in the walls.

In what episode does Michael burn down the banana stand? ›

Originally aired Sunday, November 9, 2003 | Watched by 6.70 million viewers. Michael puts George Michael in charge of the Bluth Bannana Stand, and his son subsequently burns down the stand.

Who said there's always money in the banana stand? ›

In the TV show Arrested Development, character George Bluth Sr.

Do banana stands really work? ›

By hanging your bananas separately from other fruits, you're not just organizing your space – you're actively slowing down their ripening process. This innovative approach lessens the effects of ethylene gas, commonly released by fruits, which accelerates ripening. The result? Less waste and longer-lasting bananas.

Why go to a banana stand when we can make your banana stand? ›

Gob: Attention Everyone. Why go to a banana stand when we can make your banana stand?

Why do we say someone is bananas? ›

If one is not discussing the fruit itself it's old slang for crazy, silly, insane. Primates and monkeys are stereotyped to eat lots of bananas and thse animals can be quite animated when excited. Thus “going bananas” and he is bananas.

Why do hanging bananas last longer? ›

Turns out there's a scientific reason you should be hanging your bananas from a hook. When you hang bananas, the ethylene gas works more slowly. Hanging bananas also prevents them from bruising on the counter, which they're more prone to do as they continue ripening.

What episode there's always money in the banana stand? ›

"Top Banana" is the second episode of Arrested Development's first season. Michael puts George Michael in charge of the Bluth Frozen Banana Stand, and his son subsequently burns down the stand.

Why was banana sad? ›

Once upon a time there was a very sad banana. “Why was he so sad,“ you might ask. Well maybe, it's because although many people appreciated him for his golden yellow color and his sweet, yummy flavor, they never took the time to get to know him.

What TV family owned a banana stand? ›

Netflix recently released the fourth season of the TV show "Arrested Development," about the dysfunctional Bluth family and their various business ventures. One of those ventures is a frozen banana stand on Newport Beach's Balboa Island.

Does Michael ever figure out why he was burned? ›

It was revealed that he was burned to be recruited by a mysterious organization and is contacted by a woman named Carla.

Did the banana stand burn down? ›

The banana stand has burned down and flashbacks reveal the events that led to its destruction: Michael tries to get George Sr. to let him run the company himself. Maeby joins George Michael working at the banana stand, where she steals money from the till. George Michael sets it on fire, with Michael's permission.

How much money was lining the walls of the banana stand? ›

Later in the episode, Michael and his son George Michael, played by Michael Cera, burn down the banana stand in an act of defiance and father-son bonding. The next day, George Senior tells Michael that there was literally $250,000 in the walls of the banana stand.

What does an upside down banana mean? ›

Apparently, if you have a bunch of bananas in the top part of your cart, and they are upside down so the curve goes up, it means you are single and available. Plus, that rumored pineapple move is allegedly true!

Top Articles
PADI Scuba Diving Restrictions
How to Identify File Deletion in Windows | APPSeCONNECT
DPhil Research - List of thesis titles
Senior Tax Analyst Vs Master Tax Advisor
Goteach11
WK Kellogg Co (KLG) Dividends
Craigslistdaytona
Comenity Credit Card Guide 2024: Things To Know And Alternatives
Sports Clips Plant City
Dumb Money
Rosemary Beach, Panama City Beach, FL Real Estate & Homes for Sale | realtor.com®
Ivegore Machete Mutolation
Hijab Hookup Trendy
The Witcher 3 Wild Hunt: Map of important locations M19
Bahsid Mclean Uncensored Photo
Unlv Mid Semester Classes
Does Breckie Hill Have An Only Fans – Repeat Replay
Adam4Adam Discount Codes
Nick Pulos Height, Age, Net Worth, Girlfriend, Stunt Actor
St. Petersburg, FL - Bombay. Meet Malia a Pet for Adoption - AdoptaPet.com
Td Small Business Banking Login
Dallas Craigslist Org Dallas
north jersey garage & moving sales - craigslist
Lakewood Campground Golf Cart Rental
Purdue 247 Football
Greenville Sc Greyhound
Litter Robot 3 RED SOLID LIGHT
Target Minute Clinic Hours
kvoa.com | News 4 Tucson
Urban Dictionary Fov
Is Holly Warlick Married To Susan Patton
4Oxfun
Haunted Mansion Showtimes Near Cinemark Tinseltown Usa And Imax
Skroch Funeral Home
Edward Walk In Clinic Plainfield Il
Dreammarriage.com Login
Help with your flower delivery - Don's Florist & Gift Inc.
Does Iherb Accept Ebt
20 Best Things to Do in Thousand Oaks, CA - Travel Lens
Ursula Creed Datasheet
Why I’m Joining Flipboard
Wayne State Academica Login
The Wait Odotus 2021 Watch Online Free
Walmart 24 Hrs Pharmacy
Ephesians 4 Niv
Take Me To The Closest Ups
Who Is Nina Yankovic? Daughter of Musician Weird Al Yankovic
Sam's Club Fountain Valley Gas Prices
Billings City Landfill Hours
Strange World Showtimes Near Century Federal Way
Access One Ummc
Latest Posts
Article information

Author: Mr. See Jast

Last Updated:

Views: 5320

Rating: 4.4 / 5 (55 voted)

Reviews: 94% of readers found this page helpful

Author information

Name: Mr. See Jast

Birthday: 1999-07-30

Address: 8409 Megan Mountain, New Mathew, MT 44997-8193

Phone: +5023589614038

Job: Chief Executive

Hobby: Leather crafting, Flag Football, Candle making, Flying, Poi, Gunsmithing, Swimming

Introduction: My name is Mr. See Jast, I am a open, jolly, gorgeous, courageous, inexpensive, friendly, homely person who loves writing and wants to share my knowledge and understanding with you.