Change made to my investing and divesting rules (2024)

Monday 10 March 2014

Change made to my investing and divesting rules


Change made to my investing and divesting rules (1)

In the rules that I made for I had a very final rule that said that if I could not beat DAX in 3 years then I had to shuffle 50% of my net worth into a low cost index fund, after 6 years 75% and after 9 years of failure all of my net worth should be pushed into an index fund.

This rule was made very early on in my investment "career" and was based on me trying to protect my net worth from too many years of losses. It wouldforce me to step into a system that is well known that it works, meaning the low cost index funds, which every person should consider to invest in to have a guaranteedhealthy return of the investmentwhenmade fora longer period of time. In this reflection you can read a bit more about other hidden benefits of index funds.

Lately I have been re-reading books, I have listened to Peter Lynch, I have listen to Walter Schloss and several other well known and less known investors and many of them claim that the best years for their investments have started around year 4 when they have bought cheap companies. These guys have been around for so long and knows so much more than me that it must be true and I must take their word for it which means that I decided to re-adjust my final rule and to increase the years that I give myself to beat DAX so:

If I have not managed to beat DAX in 5 years then 50% must go into low cost index fund, after 10 years 75% of my net worth must be there and after 15 years I will go all in on the low cost index fund.

What is your experience? How many years has it taken your investmentto give a healthy return?

Change made to my investing and divesting rules (2)

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poomksaid...

Many colleagues of mine start to profit from their investment (comparing to an index, of course) on their 3rd-4th year of investment.

One of the reasons I found is that people tend to be overly optimistic on their very first years. Which later led them to certain losses.

I too had this experience when I started. On the very first years I invested based on ratios, quantitative factors, which was very similar to Graham-style investment (mainly because I copied his idea).

Later, I found out that this method is not my cup of tea. I tend to prefer, and also do better, in investing on 'great' businesses. The determination of what a great business is, is both quantitative and qualitative.

I would like to quote from Warren Buffett Partnership's Letter in 1967:

"The evaluation of securities and businesses for investment purposes has always involved a mixture of qualitative and quantitative factors. At the one extreme, the analyst exclusively oriented to qualitative factors would say, “Buy the right company (with the right prospects, inherent industry conditions, management, etc..) and the price will take care of itself.” On the other hand, the quantitative spokesman would say, “Buy at the right price and the company (and stock) will take care of itself.” As is so often the pleasant result in the securities world, money can be made with either approach. And, of course, any analyst combines the two to some extent – his classification in either school would depend on the relative weight he assigns to the various factors and not to his consideration of one group of factors to the exclusion of the other group."

more on http://warrenbuffettoninvestment.com/warren-buffett-quantitative-vs-qualitative-investing/

This kind of idea, that Buffett found out since 1967, stuck in my head. These kind of stocks, unlike the deep-value stocks as before, are what I am investing on. And since then my investment has been improved.

Perhaps, the qualitative factors that Buffett mentioned, can explain the performance of your portfolio, especially Münchener Rück, ABF, and Asian Bamboo..

I recommend Buffett's letters. And Lynch's books are pretty good too, all of them.

Good luck on your investment!

Friday, March 14, 2014Change made to my investing and divesting rules (5)
Fredrik von Oberhausensaid...

Thanks for your great comment poomk!

I start to see more and more the simplicity in making investments in great companies that are trading at a fair price and maybe one day I will do like you did and change to that kind of investment principle instead.

One thing is for certain and that is that one will sleep much better at night owning great companies and especially if there is a major market crash because one knows that the giants will make it to the other side.

I keep thinking and I try to keep improving. I am sure that the direction of the journey that I started back in 2012 will change many times until the end is reached.

Sunday, March 16, 2014Change made to my investing and divesting rules (6)

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What is the difference between investing and divesting? ›

What does divesting mean? Investing is an active strategy of buying assets that you expect to add value to a portfolio or company. But if your investments don't work out, you need to be able to sell them again. Divesting is getting rid of an investment.

What is the divestment rule? ›

In business law, divestment is when a business sells off its subsidiaries, investments, or other assets for a financial, ethical, or political objective. To do so, the business must partially or fully remove the asset from its financial records (books).

What is the divestiture rule? ›

Divestiture is the partial or full disposal of an asset by a company or government entity through sale, exchange, closure, or bankruptcy. Divestiture can either be voluntary or court ordered. Examples of divestitures include selling intellectual property rights, and corporate acquisitions and mergers.

What is the 5 rule of investing? ›

This sort of five percent rule is a yardstick to help investors with diversification and risk management. Using this strategy, no more than 1/20th of an investor's portfolio would be tied to any single security. This protects against material losses should that single company perform poorly or become insolvent.

What is an example of divesting? ›

For example, an automobile manufacturer that sees a significant and prolonged drop in competitiveness may sell off its financing division to pay for the development of a new line of vehicles. Divested business units may be spun off into their own companies.

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Generally speaking, in the U.S., the new buyer will simply hire the employees that are part of the divestiture. In other countries, however, often times there are more employee protections in place so a buyer cannot always be as selective on what employees it will retain - even with an asset deal.

What are the three criteria for divestment? ›

It is done when: The subsidiary asset or division isn't performing up to expectations. The company must sell assets because of legal or regulatory action. The company is satisfying other strategic business, financial, social, or political goals.

Is divestment a good thing? ›

Critics argue that while divestment can be an effective expression of disapproval and a call for change, its actual impact on corporate behavior and market trends is more tenuous.

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Divestment is the opposite of investment – it means getting rid of assets that are invested in companies that are extracting fossil fuels as sources of energy and contributing directly to climate change.

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Challenges Faced During Divestment

Divestment is typically a more labor-intensive process than acquiring a new business. While business acquisitions can take as long as needed, a divestment comes with strict time constraints.

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Through divestiture, a company can eliminate redundancies, improve operational efficiency, and reduce costs. Reasons why companies divest part of their business include bankruptcy, restructuring, to raise cash, or reduce debt.

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When companies divest business assets, there is always the chance they will inadvertently transfer data or assets and/or provide access to information—confidential customer data, intellectual property, or market-specific financials—that were not included in the terms of the sale.

What is the 70% investor rule? ›

Basically, the rule says real estate investors should pay no more than 70% of a property's after-repair value (ARV) minus the cost of the repairs necessary to renovate the home. The ARV of a property is the amount a home could sell for after flippers renovate it.

What is the 80% rule investing? ›

Definition of '80% Rule'

The 80% Rule is a Market Profile concept and strategy. If the market opens (or moves outside of the value area ) and then moves back into the value area for two consecutive 30-min-bars, then the 80% rule states that there is a high probability of completely filling the value area.

What is the golden rule of investment? ›

Look beyond the short-term

Trying to time the market increases your risk of buying or selling at the wrong time. By investing over a longer timeframe, you're more likely to benefit from trends that can support positive performance over a matter of years.

What is the meaning of divesting? ›

1. : to take (something) away from (someone or something else) : to cause (someone or something) to lose or give up (something) The document does not divest her of her right to use the property. often used as (be) divested of. He was divested of his title/power/dignity.

What does divest to invest mean? ›

Divestment, also known as divestiture, is the act of reducing financial exposure to an asset to better achieve financial or social goals.

Does divesting make a difference? ›

Stock prices remain steady: Research finds that there's very little correlation between divestment campaigns and stock value or company behavior, Witold Henisz, vice dean and faculty director of the environmental, social and governance initiative at The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania, told CNN.

Is divesting the same as selling? ›

While divesting may refer to the sale of any asset, it is most commonly used in the context of selling a non-core business unit. Divesting can be seen as the direct opposite of an acquisition. Divesting can create an injection of cash into the company, while also serving the company's overall corporate strategy.

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