Corned beef pie – a Welsh classic (new recipe) - It's not easy being greedy (2024)

If you are of a certain age, you probably ate lots of corned beef when you were growing up. Tinned or sliced, this mystery meat is salty and fatty, with a non-meat texture. For a food snob like me, I should avoid it like the plague, but I have very fond memories of corned beef and tomato ketchup sandwiches for packed lunch (or corned beef and cucumber which was the healthier option offered up by my mum!) … in fact I could eat one right now!

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A popular Welsh dish

I hadn’t been aware that corned beef was such a popular dish in Wales, featuring in many recipes but most popularly as corned beef pie, pasty or corned beef rissoles. You are looking at a combination of cheap ingredients combined to bulk out a dinner: corned beef, onions, potatoes and pastry. Don’t be put off though, the end result is truly delicious, and friends at my recent 40th birthday party were converted by the tastiness of the pie.

Make the corned beef pie your own

Lisa from Lovely Appetite recently posted her own version of a corned beef pie, which made me realise how different everyone’s version can be. I didn’t follow a recipe the first time I made mine – I developed it based on Andrew’s preferences and what I imagined would taste nice. That makes it different to the one we eat in Wales (from Cyril’s the butcher!) but in my view better!

A step by step guide to making corned beef pie

I make my own shortcrust pastry for the pie, but I am tempted to give this hot water crust pastry a go sometime as I think it would be delicious. I have also used Jusrol shortcrust if I am feeling lazy – you need a 500g slab to top and bottom a 21cm pie dish, which is what I happen to use (as it’s the only loose-bottomed dish I have).

400g plain flour to 200g butter mixed together with a little salt made more than enough pastry for my dish, so I froze the rest for a rainy day when cheese straws or something similar are needed.

While the pastry is resting in the fridge, you can make the filling by cubing a couple of medium sized potatoes (around 400g). I don’t bother peeling the potatoes as I am lazy, and just boil them in salted water until tender (around 10 minutes should do it, as each chunk is around the size of a sugar cube).

While the potatoes drain, gently fry a chopped onion in a little oil. I use the same pan as I used for the potatoes to save washing up.

Once the onion has softened, add the boiled potatoes back into the pan along with the cubed corned beef (maybe minus one cube that you’ve eaten), and give the mixture a stir. No salt or pepper is needed in my view, but feel free to season with pepper (corned beef is salted enough) if that’s to your taste.

For me (and Andrew) the most important thing is to make sure you don’t end up with a mushy filling – we like to see and eat distinct pieces of meat, potato and onion. Again, everyone is different, and Cyril the butcher mashes everything together … Andrew’s mum likes to add carrots. Go with what you prefer, but try my way first as it’s the best ;).

I lightly oil my pie dish and then lay pastry onto the bottom and sides. You should wait for your filling to go cold before adding it to the pastry dish, but usually I don’t bother – as long as you are quick then the pastry probably won’t melt, so be efficient.

A pie is not a pie without a top and bottom crust!

Add your pie filling, then top your pie with another disc of pastry. I don’t bother sealing the pastry with eggwash, water or milk, I just crimp it and bung the pie in the oven (if you do have some eggwash around then brush the top of the pie as it does look nicer with a lovely golden glaze, but it’s not essential).

I bake my pie at 190 degrees fan for around 45 minutes. You only need the pastry to cook as your filling is already cooked, but the last thing you need is a soggy bottom!

Serving suggestions for corned beef pie

Once baked, I often leave the pie to go cold and then remove it from the dish and slice it, but you could also serve the pie for Sunday lunch with green beans, warm. Either way, it is delicious.

Here’s the pie I made for Andrew to eat while watching the rugby, alongside some homemade sausage rolls.

Traditional welsh corned beef pie recipe

Corned beef pie

Corned beef pie – a Welsh classic (new recipe) - It's not easy being greedy (8)Tracy

This is a traditional and delicious Welsh classic, using humble but tasty ingredients.

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Prep Time 10 minutes mins

Cook Time 45 minutes mins

Course Main Course, Snack

Cuisine British, Welsh

Servings 6 generous slices

Equipment

  • 1 deep pie dish or loose bottomed cake tin (21cm)

Ingredients

For the pastry (or feel free to use 500g slab shop bought shortcrust pastry

  • 400 g plain flour
  • 200 g butter
  • 1 pinch salt
  • cold water

For the filling

  • 1 tin corned beef the one I buy is 340g
  • 1 medium onion
  • 1 large potato around 300g
  • 1 tsp vegetable oil plus extra for greasing the dish
  • 1 beaten egg to eggwash the pie (optional)

Instructions

  • If you are going to make your own pastry, do this first. Dice the butter and mix with the flour until it resembles breadcrumbs. Then add a small amount of ice cold water and mix until the pastry comes together. Form a ball, wrap in clingfilm, and pop in the fridge to rest.

  • Dice a large potato (I don't bother peeling it) into sugar cube sized chunks, and boil in salted water for 5 minutes until just tender.

  • Drain the potato in a sieve and then use the same saucepan to fry diced onion in a little vegetable oil.

  • Mix the potato with the onion and allow to cool.

  • Open your tin of corned beef and chop it into bite sized chunks. Mix with the onion and potato mixture.

  • Preheat the oven to 180 fan or 190 otherwise / gas mark 6.

  • Take your pastry out of the fridge and remove a third of the pastry and set it aside (this will be for the lid).

  • Roll out the larger piece of pastry to around 3mm thick circle, and use to line your pie dish (which you have lightly greased with oil).

  • Put the corned beef mixture into the pie case and flatten it down. Brush the edges of the pastry with a little beaten egg if you are using, or milk.

  • Roll out the smaller piece of pastry to a circle and place over the top of the pie.

  • Press down the top and bottom pastry so they are stuck together, and then crimp the sides shut with your fingers or the edge of a fork.

  • Make a hole in the centre of the lid for steam to escape.

  • Brush the top of the pie with egg wash (optional).

  • Bake the pie at 180 degrees fan / 190 degrees without fan / gas mark 6, for around 45 minutes until the top and sides are golden brown.

  • Allow to cool slightly before removing from the pie dish.

  • Serve warm or cold. Keeps in the fridge for 3 days.

Keyword corned beef, easy recipe, pie, potatoes, welsh classic

Find other traditional Welsh recipes here

  • Crempogs
  • Drover’s pie
  • Plum and hazelnut cobbler
  • Welsh onion cake
  • Leek and goats cheese parcels
  • Lamb cawl
  • Rhubarb tarten planc
  • Welsh cakes

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FAQs

What is the secret to the best corned beef? ›

One of the keys to simmering corned beef correctly is the amount of water in the pot. When there's not ample liquid to cover the meat, your dreams of tender corned beef may be replaced by a tough, chewy result. Instead: Start by filling a large pot with enough water so the corned beef is completely submerged.

How do you soften tough corned beef? ›

Because corned beef comes from brisket, a tough cut of meat. You need its connective tissue to break down so you can have tender results. Some like to braise their corned beef in an all-water liquid, with various spices and salt; others add beer to the mix to further tenderize the meat.

What is the most tender way to cook corned beef? ›

Slow cooking with a crock pot or using an instant pot is a fantastic way to cook corned beef, resulting in melt-in-your-mouth, tender meat throughout. You can make a delicious, hearty meal with simple ingredients and a crock pot or instant pot. Your whole family will enjoy it.

Is it better to boil or slow cook corned beef? ›

Corned beef is a brisket that has been brined. It is often sold pre-cooked, but if you have purchased it raw, the best way to cook corned beef is slowly. You can bake, boil, or cook it in your slow cooker, but the key to a tender, flavorful meal requires at least a few hours.

What not to do when cooking corned beef? ›

By the end, you'll have a tasty, tender cut of meat your guests won't be able to resist.
  1. Choosing a lean cut of meat. ...
  2. Buying a piece that's too small. ...
  3. Only trying prepackaged corned beef. ...
  4. Not rinsing the meat before cooking. ...
  5. Failing to fill the pot with enough water. ...
  6. Forgetting to season the cooking water.
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Does corned beef get more tender the longer it is cooked? ›

Information. Corned beef is made from one of several less tender cuts of beef like the brisket, rump, or round. Therefore, it requires long, moist cooking. Corned beef is safe once the internal temperature has reached at least 145 °F, with a three minute rest time, but cooking it longer will make it fork-tender.

What causes corned beef to be tough? ›

High heat is not a friend to brisket. When cooked at a boil for too long, corned beef is likely to turn out tough and chewy, rather than soft and tender. Do this instead: Regardless of the cooking method, corned beef is best cooked over low heat.

Will baking soda tenderize corned beef? ›

Baking soda acts as a meat tenderizer by changing the physical composition of meat fibers.

Is corned beef better simmered or baked? ›

Is it better to boil or oven-bake corned beef? Boiled and baked corned beef are delicious, and both methods create a juicy, tender corned beef when done properly. Traditional recipes, like corned beef and cabbage, simmer corned beef in spiced water for about three hours.

Why add beer to corned beef? ›

Most of the recipes I've seen for corned beef and cabbage don't include beer. However, since beer can be a powerful meat tenderizer and add more flavor, I don't know why you wouldn't use it.

Do you bake corned beef fat side up or down? ›

Place the corned beef fat side up in a large roasting pan. Pour about 1/8 inch water around the corned beef. Sprinkle the contents of the seasoning packet into the water around the meat. Cover the pan tightly with heavy-duty aluminum foil and roast on the middle rack for 3 hours.

Is it better to cook corned beef in water or beef broth? ›

The corned beef seasoning adds so much flavor to this traditional recipe, and a low, slow cook in beef broth makes this corned beef brisket juicy, tender and melt-in-your-mouth delicious!

How many hours does it take to cook corned beef? ›

For a two to three-pound corned beef brisket, cook for 2 1/2 to 3 hours. For a three to five-pound corned beef brisket, cook for 3 to 3 1/2 hours. STOVE: Place brisket fat-side up in a large pot and cover it with water. Bring the water to a boil; then reduce the heat and simmer, allowing about 1 hour per pound.

Why is my corned beef so soft? ›

If the meat is actually mushy then I suspect that it was packed with a meat tenderizer as well as the corning salt and seasonings. If this is the case then there isn't much you could have done differently. Just don't buy that brand next time. Better yet, next time, corn it yourself.

Do you simmer corned beef with lid on or off? ›

Pour in enough water to cover the beef, then bring the water to a boil on the stovetop. Reduce the heat to a simmer, and cover the pot. A 3-pound corned beef could take three hours or more to become perfectly tender. Check the meat occasionally, adding more water if necessary.

What gives corned beef its distinctive flavor? ›

There are two basic steps to corned beef: the spice rub, and the cook. The rub is a mix of spices; mustard, black pepper, coriander seed, allspice, clove, and most importantly, the salt that gives this dish it's characteristic hammy flavor.

Should you use the juice in the corned beef package? ›

To make the corned beef, open the sealed package right over the slow cooker, because you want to include the brine in the cooking liquid. Don't discard the brine. Place the meat into the cooker and add enough cold water to cover. Add the pickling spices, cover, and cook on high for 6–8 hours.

Should you rinse corned beef before cooking? ›

Always Rinse Corned Beef Before Cooking It

Regardless of whether you cure the meat yourself or buy a ready-to-cook corned beef, chances are there's excess salt lingering on the surface and tucked into folds on the outer part of the meat.

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