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By Bryan Borzykowski on February 23, 2012
Estimated reading time: 3 minutes

By Bryan Borzykowski on February 23, 2012
Estimated reading time: 3 minutes

Why Robb Engen abandoned his once-favourite retirement savings vehicle—the RRSP—and why others in his income bracket are doing the same.

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Robb Engen hasn’t put a dime in his RRSP for three years. The Lethbridge, Alta.-based business development manager and financial blogger, stopped investing when he moved to the public sector and was able to take advantage of a defined benefit plan. While the pension plan reduces his need for an RRSP, he abandoned his once-favourite retirement savings vehicle for another reason: he’s fallen for the tax-free savings account.

More than 5 million Canadians have opened a TFSA since it was introduced in 2009, but it’s really only now—with $20,000 in contribution room ($5,000 a year since ’09)—that it’s making a play to become Canada’s main retirement savings account.

“Last year seemed to be the backlash of the RRSP,” says Engen, who tries to max out his TFSA every year. “For me, in my 30s, the TFSA has a lot more potential.”

That’s how a lot of younger Canadians are thinking these days, says Frank Wiginton, a Toronto-based CFP and author of How To Eat An Elephant: One Day a Month To Financial Success. The TFSA, he says, “is the most powerful tax planning tool the federal government has given us.” The reason, he explains, is that, unlike the RRSP, money in the TFSA isn’t subject to income tax. With many people now retiring at the same, or higher, tax rate as had during their working years, this one difference between the two accounts is huge.

The only way an RRSP makes sense these days is if you know you’ll pay a lower tax rate in retirement. If you’re a diligent investor and save thousands of dollars over your lifetime, you could end up paying 46%, the highest tax rate, on your money. If you pass away before your account is drained all the leftover savings could also get taxed at the highest rate. This would defeat the purpose of the RRSP.

Wiginton says that people need to consider their lifetime tax bill when deciding which account to use. If you think you’ll have a lower tax bracket in retirement then the RRSP may make sense. If not, use a TFSA. “Think about how much tax are you likely to pay over your lifetime,” he says.

The CFP, who runs the website rrsportfsa.ca, says an RRSP makes sense for people earning between $75,000 and $120,000 a year. There’s still a good chance you’ll have a lower tax rate in retirement. But, he admits, that’s not statistically proven, just an assumption.

For people making more than $120,000 a year, invest in an RRSP and TFSA. Max out the RRSP first—since the tax rate is already 46%, the tax rate can only be the same or lower in retirement—and then put money in the TFSA.

If you make less than $75,000, the advantages of an RRSP start to disappear. The lower you earn the less useful it becomes. Anyone making less than about $41,000 should forget about an RRSP. The tax rate is too low, so you likely won’t get a break when you withdraw. Also keep in mind that the Guaranteed Income Supplement payments you receive in retirement are taxed based on your income. If you have to pay, say, 22% on your RRSP savings, you’ll have to pay that much on GIS too. If you take money out of a TFSA instead, you’ll only pay tax on GIS and it’ll likely be at a much lower rate.

For Engen, there’s no contest—the TFSA is better than an RRSP. “It’s more flexible and I can see a scenario where I’ll earn more than in retirement than what I was contributing when I was working,” he says. “I don’t want to end up paying more tax.”

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FAQs

Is it normal to lose money in RRSP? ›

If you have an RRSP, the money in it is invested. This means that if the stock market or real estate markets drop, the value of the RRSP may also lose value. However, this may only be temporary; the stock market is cyclical, meaning it will go through both highs and lows.

What is the average rate of return on RRSP? ›

Registered Retirement Savings Plan (RRSP) Rates
Table Summary1 Year2 Year
Group Highest5.3505.050
Group Average4.6804.430
Group Lowest2.1002.600
Mar 4, 2024

Should I max out my RRSP each year? ›

A major drawback of maxing out your RRSP is the fact that the money will become taxable when you withdraw it. If you withdraw the money early, you may end up paying up to a 50% tax on it! Now, the theory is that you'll be paying lower taxes in retirement, because you'll only be working part time, if at all.

Is it better to put money in RRSP or TFSA? ›

If you're in a low tax bracket, consider putting your money into a TFSA to help build up your capital. As you enter higher income brackets, you can withdraw your TFSA funds and make contributions into your RRSP to help lower your income taxes.

What is the disadvantage of a RRSP? ›

There is less freedom in how you can withdraw from an RRSP, compared to a TFSA. Withdrawals are classed as taxable income (unlike TFSA withdrawals). Low-income earners pay a low rate of income tax, so RRSPs don't make financial sense for this kind of investor (a TFSA would probably be a better option).

When should I stop investing in RRSP? ›

In many cases, we will recommend that people convert their RRSP to a RRIF before age 71. Age 64 or 65 are common ages for conversions to a RRIF, which we will explain below. For some people, the decision to convert an RRSP to a RRIF early is purely for cash flow reasons and out of necessity.

What is the 4% rule for RRSP? ›

The 4% rule says people should withdraw 4% of their retirement funds in the first year after retiring and take that dollar amount, adjusted for inflation, every year after. The rule seeks to establish a steady and safe income stream that will meet a retiree's current and future financial needs.

What is the ideal amount to put in RRSP? ›

Generally speaking, you should aim to contribute at least 10% of your gross income each year to your retirement savings. Start contributing in your early 20s, and that 10% per year could add up to a sizeable savings and a comfortable retirement. Start later in life—say, your late 30s—and 10% a year may not cut it.

How much do I need for retirement at 55? ›

On average, you'll need to have saved $1,051,814 to retire at 55 years old. This is based on the median earnings of Americans according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics' October 2023 Current Population Survey in weekly earnings.

Does it make sense to contribute to RRSP after retirement? ›

In summary, making RRSP contributions when earning an income in retirement may lower your net income (and tax rate) today, but those contributions could increase the taxes you pay down the line, potentially causing an OAS clawback and other credit reductions, once withdrawals are made.

How do RRSP withdrawals work? ›

Any income you earn in the RRSP is usually exempt from tax as long as the funds remain in the plan. However, you generally have to pay tax when you cash in, make withdrawals, or receive payments from the plan. If you own locked-in RRSPs, generally you will not be allowed to withdraw funds from them.

Does it make sense to have more than one RRSP? ›

However, most people find it simpler to have only one or two plans, making it easier to keep track of their RRSP investments. If you are investing in assets which are insured by the Canada Deposit Insurance Corporation (CDIC), it may make sense to have more than one RRSP with different RRSP issuers.

What is the biggest reason people choose not to save and invest? ›

A lack of knowledge is a major reason why many people do not invest. The world of money and finance can be confusing and daunting.

What are two disadvantages of a TFSA? ›

Drawbacks:
  • No Barrier To Withdrawals: Although this is a benefit I believe it is also a HUGE drawback of TFSAs. ...
  • No Income-Tax Reduction: Unfortunately, TFSA contributions can't be used to lower your taxable income. ...
  • No Protection From Creditors: Another big drawback is that TFSAs aren't protected from creditors.

How can I transfer my RRSP to TFSA without paying taxes? ›

No, there isn't a way to transfer funds from an RRSP to a TFSA without paying tax. When you make a transfer, it's considered a withdrawal from your RRSP. The amount withdrawn minus withholding tax is deposited to your TFSA.

How much do you lose when you cash in an RRSP? ›

10% on withdrawals up to $5,000 (5% in Quebec). 20% on withdrawals between $5,000 and $15,000 (10% in Quebec). 25% on withdrawals of any amount for non-residents of Canada. 30% on withdrawals over $15,000 (15% in Quebec).

Is the money in an RRSP safe? ›

Deposits held in a Registered Retirement Savings Plan (RRSP) are protected separately from the eligible deposits held in other insured categories, such as those held in individual names.

Is there any risk in RRSP? ›

Issues include the tax hit when taking money out of the RRSP or RRIF later in life and the potential clawback of Old Age Security (OAS) benefits if your income exceeds the annual threshold, which was $81,761 for 2022. Dying with too much money in your RRSP or RRIF can also trigger a huge tax bill on an estate.

Why is my retirement fund losing money? ›

There are several reasons a 401(k) can lose money. Disruptions to an industry or a recession could hurt stock share prices. If other investors are worried about an economic downturn, they might rush to sell their stocks, sending share prices plummeting.

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