It’s not 2008, but people worry about savings and investments (2024)

To answer a couple of readers’ questions: No, your Thrift Savings Plan accounts are not insured. Neither by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation nor anyone else. Maybe the G Fund. It consists of U.S. Treasury bonds, so they’re backed by the faith and credit of the government.

TSP plan holders surely know the importance of that faith-and-credit fact given that at this moment, Treasury is vacuuming those G-Funds balances into the extraordinary measures, by which the government is paying its bills. Borrowing from debt until it gets authority from Congress is issue new debt.

Therefore, the questions about TSP insurance suggest a certain level of anxiety about savings and investments. There’s also the ongoing question of future Social Security Old Age, Survivors and Disability Insurance funds’ solvency. The latest bank fiasco only compounds the anxiety. In the back of many minds lies the question, can the government stay on this course forever? I only quote the Government Accountability Office, which regularly states that the fiscal course is unsustainable.

The Silicon Valley Bank deal is nowhere near the size of the 2008-2009 financial crisis and its oceanic flood of toxic assets. Yet it’s also wrapped up in politics, moving rules, and bets on gyrating fiscal and monetary policy. At the least, maybe regular people in and out of government will stop citing “silicon valley” as some sort of lofty ideal. Between Theranos and the Silicon Valley Bank story, the Valley seems as much about hucksterism, inbreeding, self-dealing and working the political connections as about innovation. Why, just yesterday, one former Theranos executive reported for duty — to the Terminal Island Federal Correctional Institution at San Pedro, California. How did that lyric go? He “caught the last train for the Coast…”

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It’s all enough to make one cry over one’s martini at the Lion & Compass. No, wait, that Silicon Valley power gathering spot closed five years ago.

Maybe the question, “Is my TSP insured?” sounds naive. But maybe not, when you consider the fact that even uninsured depositors — many of the millionaires and billionaires who knew their deposits were uninsured — are covered thanks to a “systemic risk exception” invoked by Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen. Shareholders and debtholders are out of luck. People can be forgiven for thinking the agreed-to-rules become just suggestions when the going gets tough. That’s not the regular way of the region that spawned Silicon Valley Bank. In the norms of the valley itself, we are told ad nauseum, risk came with not only the potential for both great reward, but also the possibility of losing everything, and everyone knew the rules.

On the other hand, alleged panic over the banking system doesn’t seem justified. Two failures by March 15th compares to zero failures in the previous two years, and an average of three per year in the last 10. Then again, between 2008 and 2014 more than 500 banks failed. People are concerned whether the SVB and Signature Bank collapse are a blip or the leading edge of a stormfront. As I finished this column, a group of 11 big banks sort of returned deposits that had flowed in from a bank called First Republic, which was in danger of becoming a third failure.

In a press release, the FDIC says, “No losses associated with the resolution of Silicon Valley Bank will be borne by taxpayers.” That’s thanks to use of the Deposit Insurance Fund. It’s maintained by FDIC, but banks by law must pay quarterly premiums into it. Of course, the fund, like federal pension guarantee funds, are ultimately backed by the government. Taxpayers are always at least potentially on the hook. The trouble is, no one really believes in the no-bailout line, and this is on both sides of the political spectrum.

In the New York Times, left-leaning economist Paul Krugman stated, “The fact that the funds will come from the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation — which will make up any losses with increased fees on banks — rather than directly from the Treasury doesn’t change the reality that the government came in to rescue depositors who had no legal right to demand such a rescue.”

In the Wall Street Journal, right-leaning columnist Holman Jenkins Jr. stated, “In essence, out of the blue, the risks that large, sophisticated uninsured depositors had willingly accepted were shifted to bank shareholders and U.S. taxpayers … ”

So, no, TSP accounts are not insured. But as financial advisor Art Stein noted the other day on the Federal Drive, you wouldn’t want to move them to a bank anyway now. In 35 years, the TSP, like private sector 401K plans, have proven valuable components in planning for the future. If you’re in, the experts say, stay the course now more than ever.

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It’s not 2008, but people worry about savings and investments (2024)

FAQs

What happened to investments in 2008? ›

Lack of investor confidence in bank solvency and declines in credit availability led to plummeting stock and commodity prices in late 2008 and early 2009. The crisis rapidly spread into a global economic shock, resulting in several bank failures.

What 2008 event led to negative impacts for many people's retirement savings? ›

As a result of the stock market crash, retirement accounts lost about $2.8 trillion or 32 percent of their value as of December 2, 2008 (Soto 2008). Additional losses were incurred in equities held outside retirement accounts.

What is the safest investment of all time? ›

Why they're safe: Treasuries are backed by the "full faith and credit" of the US government. In its 245-year history, that government has never defaulted on a debt, making US Treasury bonds the closest thing to a risk-free investment out there. In fact, they often act as a safety comparison for other investments.

What is the safest investment to not lose money? ›

Safe, FDIC-insured and government-backed options
  • Money market accounts.
  • Online high-yield savings accounts.
  • Cash management accounts.
  • Certificates of deposit (CDs)
  • Treasury notes, bills and bonds.
May 17, 2024

What was the worst financial crisis in history? ›

The Great Depression of 1929–39

Encyclopædia Britannica, Inc. This was the worst financial and economic disaster of the 20th century. Many believe that the Great Depression was triggered by the Wall Street crash of 1929 and later exacerbated by the poor policy decisions of the U.S. government.

What did Warren Buffett invest in in 2008? ›

In 2008, at the peak point of the global financial crisis, the legendary investor invested $5 billion in Goldman Sachs to strengthen the firm's capitalisation and liquidy in turbulent times. The then decision of Buffett has generated a return of roughly $3.1 billion for him.

Can I lose my 401k if the market crashes? ›

What Happens to My 401(k) If the Stock Market Crashes? If you are invested in stocks, those holdings will likely see their value fall. But if you have several years until you need your retirement account money, keep contributing, as you may be able to buy many stocks on sale.

Can I lose my IRA if the market crashes? ›

It is possible to lose money in a Roth IRA depending on the investments chosen. Roth IRAs are not 100% safe, but they offer the potential for growth over time. Market fluctuations and early withdrawal penalties can cause a Roth IRA to lose money.

Did people lose their 401k in the 2008 recession? ›

IMPACT VARIES BY AGE AND JOB TENURE: 401(k) participants on the verge of retirement (ages 56-65) had average changes during this period that varied between a positive 1 percent for short-tenure individuals (one to four years with the current employer) to more than a 25 percent loss for those with long tenure (with more ...

What investment is 100% safe? ›

9 Best Safe Investments

Certificates of deposit. Money market accounts. Treasury bonds. Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities.

Where is the best place to put cash right now? ›

CDs, high-yield savings accounts, and money market funds are the best places to keep your cash when it comes to interest rates. Treasury bills currently offer attractive yields at the lowest risk.

Should a 70 year old be in the stock market? ›

Indeed, a good mix of equities (yes, even at age 70), bonds and cash can help you achieve long-term success, pros say. One rough rule of thumb is that the percentage of your money invested in stocks should equal 110 minus your age, which in your case would be 40%. The rest should be in bonds and cash.

What is the absolute best investment right now? ›

Overview: Best investments in 2024
  1. High-yield savings accounts. Overview: A high-yield online savings account pays you interest on your cash balance. ...
  2. Long-term certificates of deposit. ...
  3. Long-term corporate bond funds. ...
  4. Dividend stock funds. ...
  5. Value stock funds. ...
  6. Small-cap stock funds. ...
  7. REIT index funds. ...
  8. S&P 500 index funds.

What are three very risky investments? ›

While the product names and descriptions can often change, examples of high-risk investments include: Cryptoassets (also known as cryptos) Mini-bonds (sometimes called high interest return bonds) Land banking.

What is the safest thing to put your money in? ›

Here are the best low-risk investments in July 2024:
  • High-yield savings accounts.
  • Money market funds.
  • Short-term certificates of deposit.
  • Series I savings bonds.
  • Treasury bills, notes, bonds and TIPS.
  • Corporate bonds.
  • Dividend-paying stocks.
  • Preferred stocks.
Jul 15, 2024

Why did stocks drop in 2008? ›

The stock market crash of 2008 was a result of defaults on consolidated mortgage-backed securities. Subprime housing loans comprised most mortgage-backed securities. Banks offered these loans to almost everyone, even those who weren't creditworthy. When the housing market fell, many homeowners defaulted on their loans.

What investment firm failed in 2008? ›

Key Takeaways. The financial crisis started with Bear Stearns and Lehman brothers. The U.S. government did not bail out Lehman and the institution filed for bankruptcy and eventually closed. Bear Stearns was picked up by JP Morgan and no longer exists.

What led to the financial collapse of 2008? ›

The catalysts for the GFC were falling US house prices and a rising number of borrowers unable to repay their loans. House prices in the United States peaked around mid 2006, coinciding with a rapidly rising supply of newly built houses in some areas.

What happened to money market in 2008? ›

On Sept. 16, 2008, the Reserve Primary Fund broke the buck when its net asset value (NAV) fell below $1 per share. It was one of the first times in the history of investing that a retail money market fund had failed to maintain a $1 per share NAV. The implications sent shockwaves through the industry.

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